Bad decisions in boxing and mixed martial arts fights

Bad decisions in boxing and mixed martial arts fights
In boxing and mixed martial arts fighting, there are 3 judges who will make the decision if the fight lasts until the end. Lucky are the fighters who win by shortcut – knockout, submission or surrender or simply stopped by the referee. When the fight is decided by the judges, fight fans usually have their doubts. In January of this year, Joe Lauzon faced Marcin Held for a mixed martial arts fight as part of the UFC Fight Night offering in Phoenix, Arizona. After a grueling 3 rounds, Lauzon was decleared winner by split decision. In the traditional post-fight interview, Lauzon said how come he won? Last July, Jeff Horn won over Manny Pacquiao in their Brisbane fight for the WBO welterweight title. The unanimous decision is still being contested by boxing fans until now. The most recent big fight in the boxing ring is the draw between undefeated Gennady Golovkin and Mexican ring idol Saul Canelo Alvarez. Sportwriters were united in their opinion that it should not be a draw. What do you think is the best judging method for fights to be decided fairly?


I'm a big fan of combat sports in general, boxing, muay thai, mma etc. and I honestly don't think there will ever be a best method. Judging fights is hard and everyone sees it their own way. The fans might see something the judges didn't or the opposite can happen. In the end, the result will always be the one that was decided officially by the judges and we can only discuss it, but nothing will change. Of course the 10 point system is flawed and doesn't get used correctly, but I don't see many alternatives.
Posted by Tania997 on 10-17-2017
Now you're talking my language, I used to do a few series of Martial arts when I was younger. I use to do Karate and learning this skill was brilliant and gave me much confidence. I started at a young age learning kata with also meditation to still my mind and help focus. I learned this well at first I saw a few Jean Claude Van Damme movies at a Young age and thought "wow I would love to do this". So I then joined. I have had a spar matches yes I won most of them as well which I am not normally a fighter but if push come to shove and was being attacked of any kind I will defend my self with my skills.
Posted by moneybags82 on 10-17-2017
I don't follow boxing or mixed martial arts. In fact, I don't follow any of the fighting games. I don't like fighting games. Even though I don't watch fighting games, on the games that do not involve fighting, sometimes fighting ensues. For example, you can see fighting between the opposing players during the football match. Since I don't wantch boxing or martial art, I don't know how the winner should be decided. However, I believe the one that lasts until the end is the winner.
Posted by vinaya on 10-17-2017
Well I believe that a famous pro wrestler named CM PUNK who knows martial arts, pro-wrestling and now Kickboxing made the biggest mistake while leaving the WWE. He was at the top of the company at the time when he left. Now since that time, he has only fought one bought. Although the money is okay but the fame that was one with CM Punk is not left. Even today the WWE fans CM PUNK to return. His name is chanted almost every week even he had left three years ago.
Posted by muaaz.93 on 10-17-2017
I'm not a good fan of boxing, not that it's not fun but the actual infliction of real pains and hurt in the sports makes not really disposed in watching it most times. Although, I do from time to time engage in watching, take for instance the fight between Floyd Money Mayweather vs Mc Gregor. It's was a crazy and interesting match.
Posted by Heatman on 10-17-2017
It's hard to say because whenever there is a subjective decision involved there is always the possibility of human unfairness. It's not like a race that cameras can prove who really won. I think that it would be fairly easy to have one of those bought and have the winner pre selected
Posted by Marvadaum on 10-17-2017
I don't follow any fighting sports, so I don't really know the rules and how the judging should be. I haven't really heard there is a draw in any sport competition. I think the final decision is always being made by the judges, and glad to know there are 3 judges, so they just have to vote for the winner and follow the majority.
Posted by kaka135 on 10-17-2017
Do you also all remember the first Mares vs Agbeko fight? Mares kept on hitting below the belt (more than 20 times) and was never deducted a point by the referee. And in one round, a low blow that resulted to Agbeko going on one knee was even called a knock down by the referee even if he saw it in plain sight. Abner mares went on to win this fight. If the referee just did his job perfectly, Mares shouldn't have won.

It all starts with the referee. If the referee does a great job, the judges would follow.
Posted by limberg on 10-17-2017
For me I think a final decision of any sport such as boxing or martial art should be boldly depend on who didn't surrender in a match because some judgement done by judges are never truly fair at least let the best person wins and that will be fair enough
Posted by lovely on 10-17-2017
Jonathan Solomon
Well, personally when it comes to watching fights, I prefer winning by knockout. Because when it comes to split/final decisions at the end of the final round, not everyone is going to agree with who overall outperformed the other guy. As far as the best judging system? It's not the easiest thing to judge. I like the idea of a point system based on contact per hit, but it needs to be modified a bit, in my opinion.
Posted by Jonathan Solomon on 10-17-2017
I think that a fair decision for a fight should be based on how many successful blows a fighter lands on his opponent, without the opponent being able to successfully block them. Obviously a win by a good, clean knockout is the best way but that doesn't always happen. A good example of my point is the recent Mayweather/McGregor fight. By the end of the last round, McGregor basically became a punching bag for Mayweather. He was tired, worn out, and wasn't even raising his arms anymore to defend himself. The ref made a good call to stop the match given that McGregor clearly didn't have a chance anymore and was going to end up knocked out or seriously hurt.
Posted by Denis_P on 10-18-2017
The Pacquiao vs. Horn fight really triggered me. Everyone knows apart from the judges that Pacquiao clearly won. I am not a boxing analyst and I don't need to be one to tell the obvious. Corruption in boxing has totally leveled up. The purity of sports have been desecrated by greedy people that only cares about money.
Posted by johnrajiv123 on 10-18-2017
Maybe sometimes judges also have mistakes on taking down scores, so the best method here is to review who is really the winner on how much punches landed and kicks by using replay video of the match. or sometimes some of the big fights are just fix by mafia so we cannot do anything about it. but i hope they can improve there scoring system so that the winner is cleared and transparent.
Posted by tophew on 10-18-2017
I like MMA. However we have to keep the classic MM alive. The reason being there are always going to be changes with the fights that may go around. There are some really easy to do things. You can see that martial arts are not going to be good enough in many ways. Lot of things these days are fixed. And we have to understand that the money is what counts here. That's where things change.
Posted by overcast on 10-18-2017
It is very painful when you have fought so hard with your opponent till the end of the bout but the judges now decides to give the victory to your opponent even when it is clear by you and the fans that you were supposed to be awarded the victory. The best method when the fights are so close for the judges to decide easily is to end it in a draw for both and fix another time for a rematch to satisfy both parties.
Posted by babyright on 10-21-2017
Here in America most combat sports are scored or judged by hits, knockouts pins or tap-outs. I think that's a pretty convenient and fair system.
Posted by NickJ on 12-19-2017
Well sometimes the judges are really unfair and bias. That's why most of the time I think it's all about money. The judges do that kind of decision in favor of someone who's not really won the fight or to someone who's not very convincing to win. Because they wanted the rematch, The organizer of that sports pushing the people or fans to ask for the rematch because they know that the people or fans was very disappointed about the fight, and it's gonna be a sure money for the organizer. So for the fighters, if they really wanted to win the match, they should give a very convincing fight, knock their opponents out if they have a chance.
Posted by ion on 03-26-2018
I think for a fighter point of view, it's best not to leave it on the judges if possible. Judges are humans and they all have their different ways of determining a point. Although these judges have some training and seminars on judging methods, their accuracy is still different from each other that's why they use a three judging rule in boxing.
Posted by fishbate on 07-25-2018
The system they have now is the best system that they could have. Before you will be chosen as a judge in a fighting match. There will be some criteria that you will have to meet before you will be able to qualify. However, there is a possibility of human errors and mistakes or we can also call it biased decision making that we could not avoid. One thing I think that could address this is to consider the use of computers in determining the winner particularly in a boxing match.
Posted by bee.rthooyah on 09-26-2018
I think fights should be judged by the damage they inflicted on their opponent and not just points from punches and kicks or takedowns because ultimately you could have done more punches but they could just be light punches that don't really affect your opponent all that much, while your opponent could land just one or a few punches that really hit hard and that should count for a lot more. I also think that control of the pace of the match should be given more consideration although in MMA it already is given a good amount of significance.
Posted by Wubwub on 10-17-2018
That is the recurring problem with judges when it comes to some sports. I mean they should have just computerized everything so that judges won't be around anymore. Judges can be manipulated, paid and or influenced by the opposing teams because big money and prestige are involved. Matches can be fixed or a fighter can have an advantage if he has a hold on the judges.
Posted by Kakashi2020 on 12-14-2018