Che Guevara was a hero.

Che Guevara was a hero.
I'm not really saying he is. My opinion is mixed. I mean, on one hand, there was terrible poverty in Cuba and other places, but on the other one, it's a fact he was committed to Communist revolution at all costs, often murdering all sorts of people. Also, his movement, in the name of social justice, smashed human freedom in Cuba - as is what goes on in Communist nations. Anyway, another argument involves the fact that many of the poor have oppressed themselves. In other words, their own decisions outweigh say, foreign companies (and the upper class) controlling everything.

Oh, by the way, how do you know the people wearing his shirts and stuff aren't just trying to cool hipsters? I mean, do they really know anything about Che?

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overcast

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He was more of threat to the society than hero. He had radical communist views. And he was nothing but trouble to local people too. After his regime people are breathing more freely. So he is in no way hero. More like he is into the controlling people through state. That's something surely going to damage for many people.
Posted by overcast on 10-16-2017
wiseagent

What?

Hero for whom?

Honestly, I don't understand the devotion that some people have for him. It seems to me something so illogical considering his representativeness in the political scene.

I never read / heard anything that would make me have a favorable opinion of him.

Posted by wiseagent on 10-21-2017

Comments

hermessantos
Definitely not! Martin Luther King also had a great social role as well as many other characters in our history. So why should only Che Guevara be considered a hero?
Posted by hermessantos on 10-15-2017
vinaya
Che Guevara was not a hero. He was a communist fighter. He fought for a wrong cause. I don't believe in violence. If I have to choose a political hero, it would be Gandhi, Mandela, Martin Luther King. These are my heroes.
Posted by vinaya on 10-15-2017
Digicashceo
You don't believe in violence? Be very careful of the words you use to describe your core beliefs. I don't believe in UNNECESSARY violence. Christ was PEACEFUL but NOT a PACIFIST. Let me ask a hypothetical question, God forbid this to actually happen. Let's say you're at home on a rainy Saturday night with your wife and kids. All of a sudden you're the victim of a home invasion. Two masked thugs with guns! One thug ties you up in a room. The other ties your wife and kids up. Since it's your home you know where everything is and there's a small knife under the bed where you're tied. You quickly but quietly cut your bonds. The thug that tied you up has his back to you going thru your wife's jewelry telling you after they rape her they're going to kill you and the rest of your family. You now have a KNIFE. You now have an INVADER unaware that you are FREE. Sir, I say this with respect, please explain to me how you will defend your family with NONVIOLENCE? This, with some embellishments has happened to me ONCE. When I was in the service I returned early from a deployment. Little did I know there was a crew working the neighborhood posing as alarm installation workers. One rainy night around 3am I heard a crack (I rarely sleep for the first few weeks when I'm back) It was the side door in the garage. My wife woke up. I had her take my kids into the walk in closet and call 911. I got my Sig from the lockbox. I waited in the alcove. Then I heard whispering and saw flashlights. I told the guy the police have been notified, I'm armed and to leave. He said "f you" fired about six rounds. I returned TWO. That was it. The cops arrived... This happened in 2007. He was only 24. He's paralyzed from the neck down. I forgive him. But I don't feel sorry. I can respect what you are saying my friend. But take it from someone who has seen Iraq and Afghanistan far more than ANYONE should... it's EASIER SAID THAN DONE. May God bless you and your family.
Posted by Digicashceo on 01-11-2018
vinaya
When I say I don't believe in violence, I am referring to Gandhi, Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela. I also think about India's independence that was achieved through peaceful protests. Even in my home country, the 10 years of deadly conflict was settled with peace (the fighting force laid down their arms) and the 30 years of King's absolute rule with settled through peaceful demonstration.
Posted by vinaya on 01-21-2018
jyy
I can see the situation which brought on Castro and Che but I don't condone their regime. For instance, I'm sure there was a better solution, but given what was available, many chose to support Castro. However, though, it seems like a right-wing government could have made similar reforms. However, though, there are leftists that claim that right-wing governments are so snobby to the poor that they literally do nothing for them at all - and have never had an intention to do so, now or in the future. Nonetheless, there is an argument that people shouldn't be dependent on government, even the poor. Why should it always be the government which rescues the poor?

Anyhow, there is the foreign thing, though. Note, even a lot of right-wing or centrist patriots resent foreign control. You even see this in Canada. Castro and Che were playing to this nationalism.
Posted by jyy on 10-16-2017
overcast
Since when communists are heroes. They are socialist vigilantes. And they can kill and dethrone anyone and anything. Their own speed is considered as free speech. And they make sure nobody else is going to benefit off them. So he is not hero. Neither the people who are supporting him are heroes. In fact communism is so bad that countries relying on it are going down over a period of years as well.
Posted by overcast on 10-16-2017
Marvadaum
Well, I believe that he was an idealist and that is reason enough to admire him. He won the Cuban revolution along with Fidel and he could have settled for a comfortable government job and a national hero status but he declined all that to plunge back into the fight because he wanted to fight for his ideal. Still, that doesn't change the fact that he killed many in pursuit of his goal. Every story has two sides
Posted by Marvadaum on 10-16-2017
wallet
It depends on how you see it, he was a hero for some people but he was a tyrant and a communist for the others, many consider him a hero and they named schools after its name and they start school singing we will be like Che, he is having a statue of bronze in Rosario city. The truth is that he made a change and his name are in the history and I think he can be considered a hero more than a communist!
Posted by wallet on 10-16-2017
muaaz.93
Che Guevera fought for what he thought was right. Maybe he was right, but maybe he wasn't. Humans are a mixture. To try and judge them in absolute terms seems futile. Nobody's a devil, but no one's perfect either
Posted by muaaz.93 on 10-16-2017
kgord
I don't think he was a hero, but it depends on your point of view. I guess if you think communisum is a good system, then maybe you might consider him a hero, but I don't think most people have those viewpoints and don't think he is someone to be looked up to actually.
Posted by kgord on 10-16-2017
babyright
i dont think he is a good hero because he murdered innocent people, a good hero does not do that.
Posted by babyright on 10-23-2017
joey98
Nobody's a hero, some people need to be in the middle in a conflict to feel alive and they tend to enjoy fame, even if they know that the price might be death.
Posted by joey98 on 10-23-2017
jyy
I see that one person mentioned that he murdered innocent people, hence, he was no hero. Well, the problem with that thinking is that innocent is often subjective. Note, in Che's case, he saw the rich in Cuba as thieves. However, though, the rich and other anti-Castro Cubans saw the Communists as thieves - mainly because they took over their land and companies - and also a lot of foreign companies mainly owned by the US. Therefore, the problem is the definition of theft.
Posted by jyy on 12-07-2017
NickJ
I think when it comes to labeling some past historical leaders as 'heroes,' it always gets complicated when you see they've committed murder or 'murders' in their quest to achieve their ends. I think taking innocent life and shedding innocent blood always downplays how heroic some of these people claimed to be.
Posted by NickJ on 12-25-2017
cmoneyspinner
I don't know much of the history of Che Guevera. I do know that like Castro his world vision was too narrow. In the end, he did not succeed in his efforts. Castro may have run Batista out of Cuba, but I don't consider his “revolution” a success. It's more like a revolution that never ended. Revolutions are supposed to end you know? With the greater good cause being accomplished. That's what the revolution is for. Right? (O.o) Anyway, Mr. Guevera is no longer here to speak for himself and we only have the historical records to glean from. Those records don't impress me much.
Posted by cmoneyspinner on 01-01-2018
NickJ
Well revolutions normally end with the revolutionary being killed or brutalized in some way. So they never end most of the time because the work that was laid forth was never completed. Or destroyed once the leader of the movement was taken out. Sometimes what's left is hijacked by followers who have their own agendas. Ones not in line with their previous leader.
Posted by NickJ on 01-17-2018
Corzhens
I don’t know much about Che Guevara but I have noticed the people who are wearing shirts that are printed with the silhouette of his face. I think it is just a hype because I’m sure not all those people wearing that Che Guevara shirt know who he really is. From what I heard, Che Guevara is a revolutionary who has 2 faces that’s why he is both admired and hated by his people. That’s the problem with history, it is not accurate more often than not because it always depends on who wrote the history books.
Posted by Corzhens on 02-03-2018
NickJ
Most people follow or support him because he was all about revolution against the wealthy or those viewed as oppressors. It all boils down to the old saying, 'the enemy of my enemy, is my friend.' Even if the 'friend' in question has a few character flaws here and there.
Posted by NickJ on 02-15-2018
jaymish
I agree with most of the sentiments. As long as a movement involves violence it gets a big fat zero from me. There are many movements that used peaceful resistance. I generally disagree with communism as a philosophy because I think the result can only be poverty. Look at China that is a communist country it got out poverty by capital dictatorship. Resource rich Russia would be so much greater without its communism tendency. So I agree this man was not a hero. Allowing your people and Country to be the best they can be is heroism. Using violence as a way of asserting your authority is backward and cowardly.
Posted by jaymish on 07-22-2018