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Lucid dreaming

Lucid dreaming
Every night we dream, even if we don't remember them. Dreams are often weird, funny, scary, and all kind of insane and unlogical stuff happen in there, sometime so strange that you wake up asking yourself "What the heck was that?". But there are other times when you suddenly realize you are actually dreaming! You are.. in your mind, basically, in whatever dimension the dream take place! You can now do anything, if you train enough you might even be able to control your own dream and do whatever you want (from simple dream stuff like flying to something like banging a hot celebrity, from fighting monsters to meeting your deceased relatives!). Lucid dreams are hard to obtain but the results are totally worth it.

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Pros
  • If trained enough you could control your dreams and do anything you want
  • Choose what to dream each night
  • If you don't like your dream, you can ignore everything or just change its course of events

Cons
  • Really hard to achieve, and some of the step can cause scary experiences like sleep paralysis
  • Many lucid dreamers say that the control part is pretty difficult
  • If overdone, you could wake up at any moment ruining everything

Supporters

Vastor122

I tried this once!

Omg, I've tried this once, actually I'm doing this all the time but this one is different because it freaked the hell out of me! So, while lucid dreaming I suddenly think about the haunted nun in the movie Insidious and it effing appear in my dream! Because of that I decided to wake up. I can feel my heart banging against my chest, it was very unfortunate. Well, even if that scary thing happened, I'll chose Lucid dreaming over astral projection any time cause it is much easier to do and control than the latter.
Posted by Vastor122 on 09-11-2017
morgoodie
When I was reading this topic, Insidious came to mind. I would be scared too if that nun was part of one of my dreams. Of course, anything in the Further would be scary to have in a dream.
kingcool52

Neither but this if I had to choose

I'm not a huge believer in either of these things but if I had to choose then I'm sure I would choose Lucid dreaming. It does seem like the most likely one to be possible because it doesn't sound too silly. Being able to take control of your dreams doesn't sound too delusional I guess. But Astral projection just sounds made up to me anyway.
Posted by kingcool52 on 09-11-2017
Sue

I havr done this

It is a very cool experience. You can determine what you want to dream and who is in it. I went through this for a period of time and it making going to sleep and dreaming such a pleasurable experience. Being in control of you dreams is something that I wish I could do all the time but have never been able to do it since.
Posted by Sue on 09-11-2017
Mehano

Awesome!

I have read some things about the lucid dreaming before but I have never experienced it myself. It doesn't sound like an easy thing to do. I do dream very often and I get very vivid dreams that I can easily recall after but lucid dreaming sounds really awesome.

Having the power to completely control your dreams and do whatever you desire... You can't ask for more. I would love to be able to learn lucid dreaming.

Posted by Mehano on 09-11-2017
overcast

Lucid Dreaming

It takes a lot of effort for lucid dreaming. And the very process of having a lucid dream is not easy. People have their share of the issues with the attaining lucid dream. Not every one of us can do that effectively. But it's doable for sure. I guess to each one of us it is going to be different.
Posted by overcast on 09-11-2017
JoeMilford

Lucid Dreaming Is Awesome

Years ago, back in college, I bought a few books about lucid dreaming and started to experiment with it quite regularly. I even kept a dream journal for a while so that when I awoke I could record what happened and then use that further, as one of the books suggested, to have even more control of my dreams or to have repeat dreams. At one point, I was riding a giant tortoise across a desert, and I could control, using the techniques I learned in the books, his direction and where I was going. It was pretty awesome, I must admit.
Posted by JoeMilford on 09-11-2017
Marvadaum

Very interesting

I have had some experiences with lucid dreaming. Basically, once you set your mind to it it's much easier to have a lucid dream. Unfortunately, it requires practice and you cannot sustain it for long at first.
Posted by Marvadaum on 09-10-2017
giovanniiiii

With the right mindset

I have tested lucid dreaming since I was a teenager. I grew interested with lucid dreaming because of a game that I have played, wherein the main character just stays at home lucid dreaming. Since most of our dreams are forgotten after waking up, I have read that it is best to keep a notebook beside your bed in order to log whatever happened in the dream after waking up. This will develop your memory regarding previous dreams. There are also exercises to check if one is in a dream, like looking drawing on your hand before you sleep, and then looking at the drawing on your hand after sleeping, to check if it is the dream. Compared to astral projection, lucid dreaming is achievable by most people and is considered real.
Posted by giovanniiiii on 09-12-2017
muaaz.93

Lucid dreams are harmless

Yes I do have lucid dreams every now and then and would love to have them my entire life.The reason is as lucid as are the dreams where the person could lead a happy life for some hours away from the tensions of daily life. Astral projections are somewhat creepy to have.I had this thing quite many times when I am dozing.The only thing that is different in it is that my body doesn't seem to move.Like I am in some kind of coma or paralysis but could think. Most of the times it gets difficult to wake up but with some struggle one can come out of it. I always prefer to take water after such an exhibition.
Posted by muaaz.93 on 09-11-2017
Tania997

Great experience

I had this happen to me a couple of times and let me tell you, it was awesome. The control part is pretty difficult and if you start having bad thoughts you dreams could morph into something terrifying, but if you manage to stay calm and to modify your thoughts, you could see and do everything you want.
Posted by Tania997 on 09-12-2017
Barida

Interesting.

Being able to control what we dream about every night is something that will look good and nice. I mean for the fact that you now have the opportunity to have those dreams will always show you how you are able to have control with the type of things that you are able to dream about which is really nice.
Posted by Barida on 11-09-2018
Flipppy

Lucid

I experience this once but i get so excited that i woke up in just a seconds it very hard to achieve but once you achieve it it's so satisfying i've watched some couple of tutorial on how to have a lucid dream including having a dream journal i try it but i didn't continue cause my friends says something might happen to me like sleep paralysis i want to but my brain just can't....
Posted by Flipppy on 09-10-2017
JoeMilford
I never experienced sleep paralysis through lucid practices, but I have had that condition before otherwise. One of the techniques I learned was, when you are in a dream and realize that you are dreaming, if you find the palms of your hands, you can start to manipulate things and objects in your dream world. That one always seemed to work for me.
theresajane

I'm more familiar with this.

Though I know the concept of astral projection, the scope is very vague. On the other hand, lucid dreaming is very familiar to me since I have experienced it many times. But, sadly, it only takes like less than one minute for me to wake up after realizing that I'm just dreaming. I just wish that I could control it so I smcould be in a dream longer than usual and I could do the things that I'm dreaming of.
Posted by theresajane on 11-18-2018

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Astral projection

Astral projection
Everyone of us have a body, which some of us might even consider somehow a prison. Now imagine if, with the right training, meditation or anything else that is needed you were able to abandon it temporarely! You would go in what is called the astral plane - what is it? Good question, since many different people and many different cultures treat it in very different ways. There is no a real answer, so anyone could see it as he pleases. If you experience a astral projection, you are separated by your own body and the limited laws of the universe no longer concern you. Whatever you do in this status, it's your concern. If there are limits or something like that is still unknown, since it's still not yet explored. Some expert consider this as another form of the lucid dreaming, but when you look at it they are completely different things.

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Pros
  • Abandon all the laws of the universe!
  • You could go anywhere, without being limited by your body
  • Unique feeling that only this experience could give

Cons
  • Probably even harder than lucid dreams
  • It's still something not completely covered by science, or humans in general
  • You might consider it just as a weaker form of lucid dreaming

Supporters

JaiGuru

Utility

Lucid dreaming is little more than an enhanced day dream. It serves no purpose. If I could leave my body and wander around undetected it would have incredible utilitarian value. I could work for the military. I could enter the vaults of every major corporation on the planet and steal their ideas and recipes. It would essentially make me a demigod.
Posted by JaiGuru on 09-11-2017
Xilkozuf
The fact is that we don't actually know how the supposed "astral plane" works, so you might end up seeing things differently. I don't know how that would be useful for the military. If it was the case, there would be some kind of special units for astral projection expeditions. Or maybe they already are and we don't know... And they are watching us right now.
blank629

Amazing!

I always heard things about astral projection. I even watched it in television and the people who experience it say that they don't know what happen but they clearly see their own body. It sounds amazing but scary at the same time.
Posted by blank629 on 09-13-2017
PLScloni

Curious

I wasn't yet amazed with this and i want to experience this . Lucid dreaming always occur to me that it seemed like a common dream for me . Funny cause with lucid dreaming i can even say " fast forward it's too boring ". With astral projection,though i never experienced this but a friend had once shared his experience to me and that was very amusing and my friends story is quiet scary, he walked up standing facing the altar , in his dream he saw the statue moved facing it's back to him and when he waked up and really saw the statue in the same position , like who would pray on statue facing backward it should forward, he said the he saw his father sleeping on the sofa and was asking for help and cannot be heard and his self sleeping soundly on his bed . What an experience . I really want to have this at least once.
Posted by PLScloni on 09-13-2017
geloi

I wanted to Try this

I have never been on this state of dreaming and I do not know of anyone from my friends or family who has done astral projection. I have done Lucid dreaming I guess if I base it on the definition. I think that only few people can reach this type of consciousness because it requires good control of mind and body.
Posted by geloi on 09-11-2017
JoeMilford
Personally, I once had an experience with this when I was doing some Buddhist breathing techniques and meditation. I saw myself from the outside of my body, and it scared the living hell out of me, and I never did it again. I know that might make me a coward, and it might also be limiting my progression or transcendence, but I never tried it again after that day. Sorry in advance if this post is too personal!
Heatman

More interesting

To think of having control over what and where you can be, the things that you can do, where you can go all in dream and to actually be able to leave your present body to go anywhere seems very thrilling and fun to me. This seems very difficult to me, as much as I would desire to experience it, I doubt that it would very possible to achieve.

Being able to leave this body of mine and go to wherever I feel like, you can imagine what I would be to do, there are several fantasy which I would dream to fulfill and believe me that they are countless. I would give everything to experience dream in Astral projection, it's definitely going to be a worthwhile experience.

But the funny thing is that, I'm not the dream type, I hardly dream and even if I do, it's barely occurring and how crazy it sounds, I don't recall my dream after dreaming. Maybe dream is not for me and I kind of prefer it this way.

Posted by Heatman on 09-26-2017

Comments

Jonathan Solomon
Well, in this comparison, lucid dreaming and astral projection highly fascinate me equally. Because it appears as if we're talking about tapping into our deep subconscious states in both situations. To experience either one would be monumental. Though the thought of an astral projection slightly scares me. Something about being outside of my body but still in the room is creepy. With lucid dreaming, I feel I'm acknowledging I'm in a dream state. But controlling what actually happens. Because of that, I slightly favor lucid dreaming more.
Posted by Jonathan Solomon on 09-10-2017
zheh
It's really hard to identify which one you experience. I have this weird experience which until now that i've seen this topic i don't know what it really is. When i was younger i have this night that i know i'm sleeping and when i open my eyes i feel like i'm going to float which starts from my head and i'm looking at our window and i know if i look back i will see my body. So i tried to move cause i know if i will be able to move i can wake up. But i had the hard time moving and i feel i'm slowly floating until half of my body, then i was able to move and i woke up. I don't know if it's just really a dream. But it's really weird cause that time it's not really late so our lights are still open and my sister is talking with my brother and the tv is still on. Which i'm still still hearing and know all of what's happening that time when i experience it.

It happened a few times after that experience but i always do the same, i always try to move and wake up so i know it doesn't last long. Until i experience it again about a month ago. It's in the afternood and i'm alone in our unit. I'm watching tv and the lights are off so only the shade of light outside gives light on our unit. I slowly dozed off, then i woke up, open my eyes and stand up. But i feel and know that i'm dreaming cause the sorroundings is different cause it's darker and i saw our floor is flooded and i felt that there's a person doing something outside our door. Which i know is not normal. But i still hear the tv on and i know i'm still laying in our sofa but i don't want to look. I close my eyes and convince myself to move so i could wake up. My head is really aching that time, then i woke up and stand up again, but it's still the same. I still know i'm in that dream, it happen about four times until i finally able to really woke up. My head really hurts that time and i feel my body is really tired and weak. Until now i really feel strange and curious if it's really just a dream, a nightmare or something else. All i know is i don't want to experience it again. I don't like the feeling like i'm being trapped.
Posted by zheh on 09-10-2017
lovely
I have heard and read about both lucid dreaming and astral projection but I think lucid dreaming is a natural thing and can't be controlled, the same way we can't with sleep but for astral projection which to some extent is self-induced looks artificial and scary at the same time.people leaving their body to travel else where and by the way it sounds occultic.
Posted by lovely on 09-11-2017
Istine
I do not remember my dreams so closely but there are few which i could recall. Those are dreams that made me feel so wary and tired the next morning when I wake up. I cannot decipher the difference between whats a lucid dream from Astral Projection or if I was unconsciously doing either. Honestly, the thought of both scares me. There are times that I am catching my breath when I wake up or crying or waking up with a smile on my face. I guess, dreams are things that we have been perceiving and are just things that are made up from unconscious mind.
Posted by Istine on 09-11-2017
Corzhens
I still have to understand how to achieve lucid dreaming. What I usually do is to write down my dream when I wake up because in just a minute, I would surely forget my dream. And when noted down, I could analyze my dream. But usually, I find that my dream means nothing. With the lucid dreaming, it looks like exciting because you can do what you want in your dream. As they say, you can be superwoman or anything, you can beat your enemies, you can be with your loved ones especially those who had gone for good. Controlling a dream is not easy but maybe I can try.
Posted by Corzhens on 09-11-2017
Xilkozuf
Achieve a lucid dream is hard and require a lot of effort, on Internet every lucid dreamer share their different strategy but it's different for everyone. Some people find a dream journal useful, while others didn't achieve anything with it. Other tried another strategy that gave them sleep paralysis - and trust me it's seriously terrifying, even if you like horror movies and stuff like that you DON'T want to have a sleep paralysis.
Posted by Xilkozuf on 09-11-2017
overcast
I was on this lucid dreaming forum. And my experience with the lucid dreaming is so far good. And it took me so many years to manage that. I am guessing not every one of us can get comfortable with it. But the people who wish to have lucid dream it would be different for sure. I have noticed that it's perfectly doable. And if you put on the effort, then yes, it's possible to have lucid dream. I have not much experience with astral projection.
Posted by overcast on 09-11-2017
cubo
I can't control my dreams yet, it's really difficult. I've dreamed myself flying or with other powers but I always realize that I'm in a dream and everything is in my imagination but, even I know that I'm in my mind, I can't do anything special. I try to continue my dream using those powers but, instantly, I lose those powers and I don't know how to get them back so I have to wake up.
Posted by cubo on 09-11-2017
rogel
Just to share something about my dream since I was young. I have a dream that it seems like a book that it has stories with starting and beginning. It happens 4-6 times in a year that I am dreaming where I am running in a wild that nobody is there but only me. On the following month it happens again yet it seems a continuation of my first dream and for me its a kind of weird. Not like with my other dream where I take control but this one I don't know what is happening and I cannot control, yet I can wake up if I cannot tolerate my dream anymore. I consider some of my precious dreams is lucid dreaming because it is so easy for me to control the scene in my dream.
Posted by rogel on 09-11-2017
kgord
I haven't tried these before. Other than being in a state of deep relaxation and having an interesting experience I am not sure what positive result it would have in m life. I suppose if I could visualize myself succeeding at an aimportant task, it might make it more likely to happen. Then again, I could wake up and see it was just a dream! I would have to read more about it to try it actually.
Posted by kgord on 09-11-2017
morgoodie
I have never tried either of them but I would choose Lucid Dreaming. I would love to control my dreams because some of my dreams are so frustrating and scary that I would like to be able to change their direction. I have always had weird dreams and I remember most of the dreams that I have. There are some dreams that I know I am dreaming and I am not able to leave them even though I desperately want to. I am sure this process would take a lot of time and effort to fully achieve the ability.
Posted by morgoodie on 09-11-2017
geloi
I guess I am the only one here wanting to have an astral experience. I have never tried an astral projection and I swear that If ever I have mastered doing it, I am gonna look for answers about all the mysteries happening in this universe. Lucid dreaming cannot give you that same level of experience and consciousness.
Posted by geloi on 09-11-2017
Joteque
I suppose it would be kinda cool to experience astral projection having to travel just about anywhere without worrying about universal earthly matters like a space suite or underwater gear or even a visa! Lucid dreaming seems to aid mind body and soul meditation and that is great as well. Both of these are uncharted territories, there are no safety instructions like what is available to you when you travel on a plane. No hostesses demonstrating safety instructions about life jackets and exits in case things get a bit crazy. I suppose there are always risks in some form or the other and chances are when we die I suppose we project in some form as one part of our bodies leave the other and who knows what happens after. I guess it's just a matter of time before we experience one weird phenomenon or another so do we really have a choice in the matter ultimately!?
Posted by Joteque on 09-11-2017
anna
Speaking as someone who has struggled with chronic nightmares (I have found a treatment for them) and has experienced the horror of sleep paralysis, I think the best thing for me is to leave my subconscious alone.
Posted by anna on 09-11-2017
babyright
Lucid dreaming happens to me almost on a daily basis. I dream everyday both good and bad dreams, sometimes it is difficult for me to explain what a particular dream is all about. Sometimes in a dream you can experience astral projection where your spirit body leaves you for sometime and later comes back to you , astral projection will happen to all of us when we finally leave the world.
Posted by babyright on 09-11-2017
Denis_P
I can't really pick one over the other because I've only ever experienced lucid dreams, and I'm not sure if I've ever really astral projected. I have tried astral projecting from a lucid dream state, and while it had all the typical characteristics of astral projecting, I had wondered if maybe it was just mind altering the dream state to feel like it was astral projection. The only definitive thing I can say is that I absolutely love lucid dreaming and I definitely need to practice it more, as the frequency of my lucid dreams has gone down recently.
Posted by Denis_P on 09-12-2017
chatbox
I've read a lot of stories about astral projection when I got interested with the occult in my teens. I tried to learn it on my own using a meditation book but I wasn't able to do it. It's interesting because one of its benefits was being in two places at the same time. On the other hand, lucid dreaming is something that seems more natural to do or achieve so it isn't that interesting to me. I've done it though not quite all the time Astral projection, however, is something that you can only achieve with real training.
Posted by chatbox on 09-23-2017
Marvadaum
Yes, I can attest to the fact. I have experienced lucid dreams before and they are quite an experience to have. Imagine a dream where you can control everything that happens. It's one hell of an enlightening experience.
Posted by Marvadaum on 09-26-2017
hermessantos
Reading both options, I can say that I believe I have had lucid dreams. On the other hand, I heard recently about the concept of astral projection and I was interested in the subject, but I have not yet had time to read and study about it. I like these themes that involve the mind and the spirit and I believe that both options are part of our evolution as well.
Posted by hermessantos on 02-06-2018
Corzhens
Lucid dreams may be normal occurrences for normal people like us while astral projection needs special skills that you have to learn. In other words not anyone can do astral projection by natural instincts unless you have been born with the super power to separate your soul from your body. For me, it is scary to do astral projection because it is not proven yet to be a science. What if we couldn’t go back to the body?
Posted by Corzhens on 09-21-2018
vivalavanda
I already experienced Lucid Dreaming and it was fun! So I wanted to try the astral projection where your soul will separate from your body. But the thing is, it requires skills and tons of practice because it's really dangerous. Sometimes, it can happen that you can never go back to your body or some soul will try to go to your body.
Posted by vivalavanda on 10-30-2018
theresajane
I've tried lucid dreaming before. But, it is just for a little while, like less than a minute. I just wish that it could take longer than usual.
Posted by theresajane on 11-18-2018