Should homeless people be allowed to sleep where they want?

Should homeless people be allowed to sleep where they want?
I saw an article recently that homeless people in Oxford (location in Central London, United Kingdom), were being given £2,500 fines because they were sleeping in certain areas of the city. Now that just sounds absolutely stupid to me, how do they even expect homeless people to pay such a large amount when they can barely afford to get food for themselves? It's not only this area either, quite a few homeless people have been fined for staying in wealthy and nice parts of London whilst others have been attacked by nightclub bouncers for sleeping near nightclubs. That is disgusting to be honest. Do you think there should be some laws allowing homeless people to be able to sleep in some areas without bother?

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Anonymous
No. Not because I hate them but beacuse government need to solve this. Sometimes, Politician is the main reason why their country is having a beggar or homeless people because they corrupt the people's money. Thats why, government need to take an action and control the country well.
Posted by Anonymous on 07-28-2017
davedaot
Yeah, I agree, it's really the government's duty to like put them in a better place, like these people have nothing in life, they should be taken care of because they are also human beings. And you're right about the Government being corrupt, that's probably one of the reasons why homeless people exist.
Posted by davedaot on 12-07-2018
Zyni
Well, wealthy people certainly don't want to be reminded that there are people out there doing without. Then, they might feel like they actually have to do something. Instead, it's much easier to complain, and sweep them all away. Out of sight, out of mind.

They can't just sleep wherever, but still, people could have a bit more compassion. There but for the grace of God....
Posted by Zyni on 07-28-2017
Sue
I don't believe that they should be fined or bullied for sleeping in certain areas because they don't have the most eyes for the fines. Fines are going to go unpaid anyway. What a plan they do if they don't pay? That is just ridiculous. I think if a business has a problem with them sleeping in front of their establishment they have the right to ask them to move along but there is no reason to be mean or rude about it. It would be better if the food businesses could offer them a free meal. Most people are only a paycheck away from being homeless.
Posted by Sue on 07-28-2017
luispas
They don't even have a house or job, neither family, from where they will find money? It's a tough situation that cannot be solved that easy. I just can't find a way to help them. I've seen in the news how mean people kill them just because they dislike how horrible they look, I know that they don't have the best attitude but come on, killing someone it's something worst. I think the Government could help them, making a house for them or something, it would be lovely.
Posted by luispas on 07-28-2017
Marvadaum
I think common sense should be applied always. While i don't think they should be allowed to sleep anywhere i don't think they should be treated like that. The government should provide with the necessary places to guarantee they have a place to stay.
Posted by Marvadaum on 07-28-2017
BigDreamer
While I feel sorry for the homeless and do not want to see them being treated badly or fined a large amount of money, there are boundaries. They should not sleep in front of stores, bars or restaurants. Use a little common sense here.
Posted by BigDreamer on 07-28-2017
Neiltarquin
I know this situation is unavoidable especially for them because, duh, they are homeless for crying out loud. If they have a place of their own, why would they be out there in the first place. Our government should focus on them because obviously they are the one who is in need of help.

Atleast give them the a place to stay for every night. Give them jobs to help them go back to support their own weight again. If a politician would do this, I would go shake his hand and will be his loyal follower forever.
Posted by Neiltarquin on 07-28-2017
BatmanWayne
I think that they should live wherever they want just because the governments don't move a finger to solve this and that is why they cannot live in a house, there are a lot of laws and things that make the people went out of money.
Posted by BatmanWayne on 07-28-2017
Pixie
No they should not be allowed to sleep where they want to and I am saying this for their own safety. There was recently a case against a famous actor because he ran his car over some people who were sleeping on a pavement. However, those homeless people must not be forced to play any kind of fines. Instead, I think that the government must try to create a special place for those people to stay.
Posted by Pixie on 07-28-2017
Anonymous
I strongly believed that homeless people should not be allowed to sleep anywhere they want. I have nothing against them but its for everyone's safety, both the working class and the homeless ones. They should be under the utmost care of the government agencies which programs are definitely fit for the welfare of the homeless. The more they are seen by many people living on the streets, the more they will feel aloof and indifferent. These are the things that will push their buttons to commit mistakes against other people. They should feel that someone or thr government is doing something for them despite of their situation in life.
Posted by Anonymous on 07-28-2017
Happyflowerlady
I think that homeless people will probably continue to sleep wherever they want to sleep; but that does not mean that I think this should be allowed. As was mentioned, giving a homeless person a large fine is not the answer either; because they are not going to ever pay it, and it just clogs up the court system trying to enforce that fine. There have been many cases where homeless people have actually burned down an empty house because they started a fire inside the house to keep warm. When someone is selling their house, as an example, and it sits empty for a while, homeless people will sometimes break into the house and camp there. I totally think that this is wrong, and they should be charged with criminal trespass and jailed just like anyone else would who beaks into someone's home. Most of these people can go to shelters; but they do not want to go there because often they are an alcoholic, drug addict, or both; so they stay one the streets and beg instead of eating and sleeping at the shelters.
Posted by Happyflowerlady on 07-28-2017
morgoodie
I think the fine is ridiculous and they are never going to pay it so why bother with that method. Why not try to come up with ways to solve the issue than ways to penalize people who are homeless. I can understand that businesses don't want them to sleep near them because it will deter people from coming to their establishment. If the city doesn't come up with a better solution they are going to be wasting their resources trying to enforce the fines and using valuable police time removing the homeless from areas they aren't allowed. Homeless people have it hard enough as it is without being punished in this way.
Posted by morgoodie on 07-28-2017
VintageRose
The idea of giving fines to the homeless is frankly ridiculous, if not a little bit evil, and it won't solve the problem.

If you don't want the homeless to sleep in certain places, then solve the problem the right way: Give them proper places to sleep in. You get to keep them away from your historic landmarks AND they get basic living conditions.
Posted by VintageRose on 07-28-2017
BeardedMamba
Well, instead of allowing them to sleep on a certain area, I think providing a shelter for the homeless seems to be a better idea. It would help them and maybe try to give them a job for minimum wage, like cleaning the streets, something like that.
Posted by BeardedMamba on 07-29-2017
simplym
Even though they are fined, what will happen if they do not pay? They do not have a residence so how will the fine be mailed to them and so forth though?
Posted by simplym on 07-29-2017
Jonathan Solomon
I do agree that it's disgusting to slap such a large fine on homeless people. However, I don't agree that homeless people should be able to sleep wherever they want. If you ask me, cities tend to normally neglect the homeless. Instead of attempting to fix the problem, they choose to ignore it. I do believe every city should allocate an area for homeless people to dwell so they don't wander around. But that' just my opinion.
Posted by Jonathan Solomon on 07-29-2017
JaiGuru
Fining homeless people is ridiculous. It's clearly an attempt t keep the for-profit privatized prison system full. It does nothing to address the problem and costs taxpayers. I don't think homeless people should be allowed to lay down just anywhere for any number of reasons. But there does need to be reasonable accommodation made in any nation who is not dedicated to fixing the problem. To do any less is flat uncivil and an affront to ethics.
Posted by JaiGuru on 07-29-2017
Corzhens
There are lots of homeless in Manila numbering in thousands. From time to time, the city government conducts a clean up drive. They arrest the homeless not for jailing but for assessment on how they can be helped. It is not good for people to use public spaces for their bedroom. We need to have a decorum on this issue.
Posted by Corzhens on 07-29-2017
Mehano
Wow, that's absolutely ridiculous... even I couldn't afford to pay such a fine right away, let alone the homeless people! I strongly disagree with the fines because we have to take into consideration that these people truly have nowhere to go, no home, no house, no job, no income. Some used to be very hard working people that simply got laid off and now they don't have any choice but to sleep on the streets. I don't think that we should allow homeless people to simply sleep wherever they want because that would lead to chaos. Imagine waking up to find a homeless person asleep at your doorway? We do need laws surrounding this issue but we also need special accommodations and areas where we can give them a proper resting place. If we would do that, believe me, that none of them would choose to sleep on the streets!
Posted by Mehano on 07-29-2017
amitkokiladitya
If a country is capable of providing adequate shelter to all the homeless that reside within it then yes, I it has the right to impose any such law. Otherwise it is completely stupid to impose restrictions on those who cannot avail the basic amenities of life. Life has itself done a lot of injustice to them and it would be inhuman on our part if we prevent them from resting where they want.
Posted by amitkokiladitya on 07-29-2017
wallet
I agree with you that's stupid, these people cannot pay such a huge amount, so they will be called to a trial where will be spending the taxpayer money, so, in the end, we will have a lot to lose from this action. If the state tries to help these people with shelters and they still want to sleep on the street I don't see why we should force them to do something they don't want!
Posted by wallet on 07-29-2017
timstargraal
Well the term, wherever, is quite vague because there are only certain places in which they can sleep. But overall, no, they shouldn’t be allowed to sleep wherever they want. I’ve had personal experiences with homeless people lying in the doorway to my apartment and it turned out to be a whole argument of telling him to move before he got up and moved out of the way of my apartment. Also, just looking on the streets now, they are literally in the middle of the pathway or in doorways with enough room. Sure they are already homeless and what more do I want of them but just lying in places where people have to get through is annoying.
Posted by timstargraal on 07-29-2017
Alexa
There are laws in some states in the US that prohibit people who linger thus stops homeless people from sleeping there. I do think it's wrong if it's a public place, but what can they do if they violate the law? A fine does no good, police move them on, and they make the situation worse. Sadly, not all homeless people have choices, and no one chooses to sleep on the street if they can help it.

I don't think they should sleep outside stores that are open as that's not fair on the store that has paid rent. Where I live there are some homeless who sit next to shops that are open and it's not comfortable and they do that to try and see if people have spare change. Those who sit in an empty spot minding their own business aren't doing any harm though and should be left alone.
Posted by Alexa on 07-30-2017
centurion
Yes. Homeless peoples are allowed to sleep any where they want. Because they are also human. They are in trouble for few days. if you come in Bengali states or in Bangladesh you will see that homeless peoples are sleeping even on the road divider. But they are happy. After full day of works they feel tired, take food from any where and sleep on the road, road divider, road highway and many other places. We are habituated about this.

Thanks Centurion
Posted by centurion on 07-30-2017
overcast
I think government around the world, should create some safe space for the homeless people. And that way they can find something for the work. I have found that in that case often we have to consider that homeless state is not something people would be able to manage there. You may need to see how other countries are battling with these set of issues. That's where things are going to change for sure.
Posted by overcast on 07-30-2017
JMS
Homeless people are not sleeping where they want. Of course, they would prefer to be in a nice warm snug and cosy bed. Especially when the nights are cold and frosty. There should be more to help these people. They should be rounded up at night and taken to a hostel to protect them from the elements. From there, the very next day they should be given somewhere to live. There are too many empty properties there should not be anyone who is homeless.
Posted by JMS on 07-31-2017
cmoneyspinner
Should homeless people be allowed to sleep where they want? Uuhhh ... NO! They might decide they want to sleep on my front porch! I don't think so! I got nothing against homeless but I'd call the cops and get them hauled off! In America, we have shelters and other places where the homeless people can go to sleep. When I lived in Maryland and it used to get really cold, the police would get the homeless off the streets and take them to a shelter so they wouldn't die in the cold! We have had some people die from sleeping out in the cold. It's a really problem. We do what we can.
Posted by cmoneyspinner on 08-02-2017
hermessantos
You can not! I think it's up to the government to solve this problem, because the vast majority of homeless people do not want to be living on the streets. So the best thing to do is to simply help these people.
Posted by hermessantos on 08-02-2017
vinaya
If the state cannot give accomodation to these people, they should be allowed to sleep where thet want. No body sleep on the street by theri choice, it is theri compulsion. If the government cannot give them homes, it also does not have rights to remove these people from the place where they have made theri homes.
Posted by vinaya on 08-07-2017
lilac123
While I don't think homeless people should be allowed to sleep wherever they want, I also think that fining them is kind of useless and ridiculous. It's like kicking someone when they are already down. I doubt that the homeless person would want to sleep there if they had a choice. I think the government could designate some areas where homeless people can stay safely and rather than fining people, the government should help relocate them to a shelter.
Posted by lilac123 on 08-08-2017
rogel07
Letting homeless people sleep where ever what they want to sleep should be prohibited and our government should do something about this issue. Our leaders is held responsible of helping them to find work and provide a temporary shelter for those homeless. Until such time that they have a stable job and able to sustain their needs including shelter.
Posted by rogel07 on 08-18-2017
Heatman
I don't think it's right for the homeless people sleep anywhere they want because they have but what I think that is right is a provision be made for the housing and upkeep of the homeless. That I am of the assertion they shouldn't be allowed to sleep anywhere is simply for their own safety and well being.

I think it's the duty of the government to make a good provision to take care of these helpless and homeless people because as much as they appear to be useless in the society, they are still very much the citizens of such country and so therefore, they should not be ignored and neglected by the government.

Even if the government fails in carrying out this task of helping the homeless find a new place of residence and means of survival, I still think that there are quite wealthy and affluent dignitaries in our society today that could easily handle this project without feel the financial strain.
Posted by Heatman on 09-09-2017
lovely
This is appalling why would a citizen be homeless in the first place,what's the essence of having a government in place when people are still homeless For me instead of asking the government to propagate laws of them sleeping any where they should be given a home
Posted by lovely on 11-15-2017
Corzhens
That was also my question before – why the government allows people to be homeless. But now I have seen the microcosm of the issue that it is the not exactly the fault of the government but more the fault of the people themselves. They do not strive to have the capability to have their own home. Especially now that the government is building housing villages for the poor people, those poor people are multiplying in numbers every day. From the mere few thousand when I was young, now they number more than half a million already based on the statistics by the government.
Posted by Corzhens on 10-17-2018
mildredtabitha
I think fighting homeless people is not good. I can only blame the government and the corrupted politicians. Old people have refused to retire. The graduates don't have jobs. It is hard to expect poverty to end when everything is expensive and money is losing value. It is up to the government to solve this problem and build homes for those who don't have a shelter.
Posted by mildredtabitha on 01-05-2018
chatbox
No, homeless people can't just sleep wherever they want nor is it good for them to sleep just about anywhere. Our government do provide some financial and medical assistance to the needy but it can't be expected to provide for everything. We all need to care for ourselves and most have to work hard to provide shelter, food, and a decent life for their families. Dole outs merely encourage laziness. Instead, they should be provided with opportunities to earn money, no matter how little, to enable them to support their basic needs. The government should at least provide a public shelter where they can spend the night but they can't be allowed to just sleep in the sidewalks or anywhere they want. It's not about them being an eyesore but it's more of ensuring peace and order in the community. They shouldn't be fined at all and it is more realistic to round them out and take them to a shelter. Hereabouts, the police are more inclined to take them to a jail which is also not humane.
Posted by chatbox on 11-05-2018
Wubwub
I think better solutions should be made because giving them even more trouble by putting fines to their name is just unnecessary and useless at that point. It's obviously not going to solve the issue since the homeless probably won't care much about such punishment and it's also a waste of time and resource for the government since it won't really deter the homeless anyway. I think being honest about the problem and putting incentives for the homeless to get out of that situation would be much more useful.
Posted by Wubwub on 11-09-2018
davedaot
I really think it's the Government's responsibility to take care of them, to put them in a better place so that they will not be wandering around, they should be taken care of too because their still human beings, they're just so unfortunate that they become like that.
Posted by davedaot on 12-07-2018